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My alma mater has made the New York Times Magazine... 
15th-Mar-2008 01:12 am
As the party-pooper in an article about girls who want to become boys attending elite women's colleges. I'm...delighted. (Though I do agree with my fellow alums that knowingly admitting female-to-male transsexuals does interfere with certain aspects of the women's college mission.)

Selected excerpts:
"Same-sex colleges have always been test beds for transformations among American women. Set up as places where women could flourish without men, colleges like Barnard, Wellesley, Smith and Mount Holyoke have always had dual personalities, serving both as finishing schools and as incubators of American feminism."

"Colleges must also navigate the attitudes and expectations of their alumnae. While some alumnae have readily accepted the presence of trans students on their campuses, others, like Suzanne Corriell and Regis Ahern, graduates of Mount Holyoke, see it as a betrayal of the foundational principles of their alma mater. Corriell and Ahern recently wrote an angry letter to The Mount Holyoke Alumnae Quarterly, charging that admitting transmale students was, in effect, a way of “passively going coed” and that the 'lifestyle choices' of these students was a bald negation of a women’s college charter. Trans students, they wrote, were simply 'men seeking to take advantage of Mount Holyoke’s liberal and accepting atmosphere.' / When I called Corriell, who is 28, at the law library at the University of Richmond, where she works, she explained her feelings to me this way: 'I am a strong believer in women’s education, and I think the colleges are a dying breed that need protection. I respect their agenda, which is educating women.' She paused, then said: 'Educating trans students in a same-sex residential community produces difficulty — when a student no longer identifies as a woman, the privilege to attend these schools is lost. Men have lots of schools they can go to — why must transmen go to women’s schools?'"
15th-Mar-2008 05:30 am (UTC)
that... is true in a way. if you want to be called a male then you should live the life of a male.

but if you're just being tomboyish then it doesnt count???
15th-Mar-2008 05:35 am (UTC)
A tomboy is still a woman, though--along with all that attends her gender. A male-to-female transsexual is not...and, importantly, does not want to be.
15th-Mar-2008 11:08 am (UTC)
I don't get it. Why are female to amel transsexuals attending women colleges? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of becoming male?^^
15th-Mar-2008 11:56 am (UTC)
Well, some change mid-way through college, encouraged by the liberal atmosphere. And some, yeah, maybe are taking advantage of the liberal atmosphere.

Also, the "elite women's colleges" they're talking about in this article are assumed to offer among the best undergrad educations in the country (their alum lists are quite impressive), so there is perhaps incentive to get in by hook or by crook...

Other than that, dunno. ^^;;
15th-Mar-2008 11:23 am (UTC)
But would an all-male college admit someone who claims to be male but who outwardly is obviously female? Or for that matter, should MHC admit a physical male who claims to be female inside? (I have no idea…)
15th-Mar-2008 11:52 am (UTC)
WHAT all-male colleges, exactly?

(If you're female to yourself, to the world, and to the law, then as far as I'm concerned, you should be female to a women's college.)
15th-Mar-2008 12:21 pm (UTC)
I dunno, there must be one somewhere ^_^;

That would be my feeling, I wonder what the debate on campus would be like..
15th-Mar-2008 12:30 pm (UTC)
Find me one in this country that a high-achieving female would WANT to attend, and then we'll talk. :P
15th-Mar-2008 12:40 pm (UTC)

It’s just a hypothetical! ^_^ Maybe she’s not really high achieving but wants a school with lots of beer and football? ^^
15th-Mar-2008 12:54 pm (UTC)
Reversing the terms doesn't always net an equivalent situation. In this case, doing that is most certainly a waste of time.
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