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"In the city of my birth, I had a dream..."
*sighs* And then there was "Nature vs. Nurture!" 
27th-Jun-2006 01:36 pm
Hate to break it to all the people who are so not loving my previous post on how NOT to structure an argument in favor of gay rights, but there is no such thing. As separate and distinct notions of "nature" and "nurture," that is. Reality, as reality most often is, is a lot more complicated than that. Who we are is actually a sum total of the complex interactions between the two. Our genes affect what sorts of environments we choose and what sorts of changes we make to them, and our environments in turn affect the expression of our genes--in a continuous circle that knows no beginning and no end.

So, for example, suppose that alcoholism has a genetic component and that certain people are genetically predisposed to it. Obivously, they ain't gonna be alcoholics, no matter how "predisposed," if there isn't any alcohol around! And of course human beings were not created with a bottle of booze in hand. Thanks to other genes that predispose us to intelligence and creativity, we invented it somewhere along the line...and, in so doing, gave that genetic component that predisposes some people to addiction to alcohol that was already there but not making any alcoholics up until that point the fuel to necessary to now make those alcoholics en masse!

EDIT: If this news is new to you, I suggest taking a few minutes, or, depending upon your intellectual mileage, a few weeks, to digest it. Seriously.
27th-Jun-2006 06:23 pm (UTC)
Well come on! What is it, nature or nurture!?

27th-Jun-2006 06:28 pm (UTC)
Thank you for contributing absolutely nothing of value to this post. ^_~
27th-Jun-2006 06:37 pm (UTC)
He does that a lot^_~
27th-Jun-2006 06:39 pm (UTC)
The same gratitude re: contributing nothing of value goes out to you, too. XD XD XD
27th-Jun-2006 06:40 pm (UTC)
Now that's not fair^_^
27th-Jun-2006 06:41 pm (UTC)
Joudan, joudan da yo. ^_~
27th-Jun-2006 06:44 pm (UTC)
Hidoi! *mock-wails*
27th-Jun-2006 06:40 pm (UTC)
Hey! At least I contribute ^_^
27th-Jun-2006 06:40 pm (UTC)
You’re welcome! ^__^
27th-Jun-2006 06:38 pm (UTC)
You know, people have been asking the same thing about Good and Evil too. I don't think they're close to a consensus yet^_^
27th-Jun-2006 06:43 pm (UTC)
Good is what your side does. Evil is what the other side does ^_~
27th-Jun-2006 06:45 pm (UTC)
Spoken like a religious fanatic all right! XD
27th-Jun-2006 06:47 pm (UTC)
And the beauty of it is, it doesn’t matter which side you’re on ^_^;
27th-Jun-2006 06:50 pm (UTC)
Ooohhoooohhhoooooohhhh, I like that one! "I'm as nature intended; YOU'RE the product of evil modern technology! *bwa ha ha*"
27th-Jun-2006 06:55 pm (UTC)
Nature or God, any great force you want to invoke ^_~
27th-Jun-2006 08:17 pm (UTC)
Ah, thanks for explicating this in a way that I've never succeeded in doing without getting frustrated.

Nature versus nurture debate is so old hat. There is no "either or", just a collection of influences, traits and experience that makes a person.
27th-Jun-2006 11:45 pm (UTC)
From my own experience I think the whole thing is rather complicated. People have always assumed that I’m gay. My behaviour is clearly fairly close to common perceptions of gay stereotypes. Most of my RL friends have always been gay. I form close, emotional, non-sexual friendships with women. But in terms of sexual preference I’m mostly heterosexual. I’ve been reading a bit about queer theory recently and the notion that you can be heterosexual but still queer appeals to me because it seems to fit my experience.
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