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Keth's Wank of the Evening(tm) 
17th-Nov-2005 06:18 pm
Public Service Announcement: The Japanese monthly manga magazine ZERO-SUM is not, I repeat NOT, a girls' magazine. Therefore the series in it--as in Saiyuki, Loveless, etc.--ARE NOT SHOUJO MANGA!! Got it!? I don't need to repeat myself, do I???

Peace. Out.

EDIT: And I don't care if more females than males actually read the damn thing. It doesn't matter. It's a marketing distinction.

EDIT.2: And PLEASE spread the word! Next time someone tells me Loveless or Saiyuki or Peacemaker Kurogane is shoujo, and I'm a moron for thinking otherwise--heads roll. Capice?
17th-Nov-2005 11:59 pm (UTC)
Where are you hanging out now that's got you explaining the obvious??
18th-Nov-2005 01:21 am (UTC)
Only the usual haunts. >_< And you wonder why I'm irritated? :P
18th-Nov-2005 12:09 am (UTC)
What brought that on?
18th-Nov-2005 12:10 am (UTC)
I bet someone argued that Loveless is shoujo ^__^. Am I right?
18th-Nov-2005 12:15 am (UTC)
Actually, PMK is in Blade. xD
18th-Nov-2005 01:10 am (UTC)
*kicks self* I did actually know that. >_< Same general brainwave, however. :P
18th-Nov-2005 12:16 am (UTC)
People try to argue that Saiyuki is shoujo? O_O;;; I haven't been introduced to Peacemaker Kurogane, but artwork also hinted it was shonen territory.

I never knew about Loveless~~ I was surprised to see that friend of Ritsuka's with insanely huge breasts, but I wasn't aware of where it was originally published. Thanks for the info. :)

The only series that makes me cringe is people trying to defend Love Hina as shoujo. Is there a harem shoujo series with a bouncy female cast flocking to one male? I assume harem shoujo would have the main eye-candy being the harem boys: Fushigi Yuugi, Fruits Basket, etc.
18th-Nov-2005 12:42 am (UTC)
Is there a harem shoujo series with a bouncy female cast flocking to one male?

yes of course - it's BSSM! Just kidding ^__^
18th-Nov-2005 01:19 am (UTC)
I believe Love Hina was serialized in Shounen Magazine--aka home of GTO and Getbackers. ^^;
18th-Nov-2005 12:58 am (UTC)

Sorry, I'm just bitter because I once said Saiyuki definitely wasn't shoujo and got reamed for it. Then I had to back down because I wasn't sure exactly who the mag was aimed at...
18th-Nov-2005 01:16 am (UTC)
Zero-Sum is "supposed" to be for guys...but I think mostly women read it. I've picked up an issue here and there, and I couldn't help but notice how the magazine has gotten progressively more girly. The effect reminds me of the way Wings, which was started during a period where publishers were pioneering (and failing at) creating a manga magazine for both girls and boys. Wings has gotten shockingly more girly as well over the years.
18th-Nov-2005 01:36 am (UTC)
18th-Nov-2005 02:42 am (UTC)
So glad I'm amusing you. ^_~

BTW, have you read the Annie Proulx "Brokeback Mountain" short story?
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18th-Nov-2005 11:02 pm (UTC)
Is there a proper word for the hybrid manga that's been coming out in the past years? It used to be easy to say what was shoujo and shounen but, honestly, in recent years manga has diversified quite a lot to the point that many manga borrow conventions from both genres... (Not that I'd call that something to complain about.)
19th-Nov-2005 02:23 am (UTC)
I've never heard a word for it. The shoujo/shounen is actually a just a marketing distinction; Weekly Shounen Jump is the most popular manga magazine for both boys AND girls in actuality, I believe.

As a general rule, though, shounen titles are more likely to deliberately make concessions to female readers than shoujo titles are to male readers.
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